xdg-su: using gnomesu in the generic option if available.

[Simon Lees]

Hi All,

I was answering an openSUSE bugtracker question re xdg-su and lxqt and
the most sensible solution we came to was modifying xdg-su's behavior
when running under a generic DE to use gnomesu or kde-su if they are
present so I thought i'd put the idea up for discussion in case anyone
objects.

For reference currently lxqt doesn't have its own replacement for
gnomesu/kde-su (well not one I know of) distro's are also highly
unlikely to recommend either of those packages with lxqt as they will
bring in uneeded kde or gtk packages but by modifying the generic
fallback to atleast check for there existence first a user can then
choose to use one of them if they please.

Cheers

[PCMan]

Post by Simon Lees
Hi All,
I was answering an openSUSE bugtracker question re xdg-su and lxqt and
the most sensible solution we came to was modifying xdg-su's behavior
when running under a generic DE to use gnomesu or kde-su if they are
present so I thought i'd put the idea up for discussion in case anyone
objects.
For reference currently lxqt doesn't have its own replacement for
gnomesu/kde-su (well not one I know of) distro's are also highly
unlikely to recommend either of those packages with lxqt as they will
bring in uneeded kde or gtk packages but by modifying the generic
fallback to atleast check for there existence first a user can then
choose to use one of them if they please.

FYI, LXQt now provides its own tool, lxqt-sudo.
https://github.com/lxde/lxqt-sudo
However, I think pkexec is a reasonable fallback.
Cheers!

Post by Simon Lees
Cheers
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Post by PCMan

Post by Simon Lees
Hi All,
I was answering an openSUSE bugtracker question re xdg-su and lxqt and
the most sensible solution we came to was modifying xdg-su's behavior
when running under a generic DE to use gnomesu or kde-su if they are
present so I thought i'd put the idea up for discussion in case anyone
objects.
For reference currently lxqt doesn't have its own replacement for
gnomesu/kde-su (well not one I know of) distro's are also highly
unlikely to recommend either of those packages with lxqt as they will
bring in uneeded kde or gtk packages but by modifying the generic
fallback to atleast check for there existence first a user can then
choose to use one of them if they please.

FYI, LXQt now provides its own tool, lxqt-sudo.
https://github.com/lxde/lxqt-sudo
However, I think pkexec is a reasonable fallback.
Cheers!

Ok as an aside i'll attempt to add detection and support for that.

[Rex Dieter]

Post by PCMan

Post by Simon Lees
Hi All,
I was answering an openSUSE bugtracker question re xdg-su and lxqt and
the most sensible solution we came to was modifying xdg-su's behavior
when running under a generic DE to use gnomesu or kde-su if they are
present so I thought i'd put the idea up for discussion in case anyone
objects.
For reference currently lxqt doesn't have its own replacement for
gnomesu/kde-su (well not one I know of) distro's are also highly
unlikely to recommend either of those packages with lxqt as they will
bring in uneeded kde or gtk packages but by modifying the generic
fallback to atleast check for there existence first a user can then
choose to use one of them if they please.

FYI, LXQt now provides its own tool, lxqt-sudo.
https://github.com/lxde/lxqt-sudo
However, I think pkexec is a reasonable fallback.
Cheers!

There are "reasons(tm)"(1) why xdg-utils doesn't install xdg-su by default,
though I wouldn't object to adopting patches to improve it either.

My strong recommendation: just use pkexec (or engineer things to use
policykit natively).

-- Rex

[Simon Lees]

Post by Rex Dieter

Post by PCMan

Post by Simon Lees
Hi All,
I was answering an openSUSE bugtracker question re xdg-su and lxqt and
the most sensible solution we came to was modifying xdg-su's behavior
when running under a generic DE to use gnomesu or kde-su if they are
present so I thought i'd put the idea up for discussion in case anyone
objects.
For reference currently lxqt doesn't have its own replacement for
gnomesu/kde-su (well not one I know of) distro's are also highly
unlikely to recommend either of those packages with lxqt as they will
bring in uneeded kde or gtk packages but by modifying the generic
fallback to atleast check for there existence first a user can then
choose to use one of them if they please.

FYI, LXQt now provides its own tool, lxqt-sudo.
https://github.com/lxde/lxqt-sudo
However, I think pkexec is a reasonable fallback.
Cheers!

There are "reasons(tm)"(1) why xdg-utils doesn't install xdg-su by default,
though I wouldn't object to adopting patches to improve it either.
My strong recommendation: just use pkexec (or engineer things to use
policykit natively).
-- Rex

Coming from a distro where it does, I wrote a patch this week to enable
lxqt support and improve enlightenment support in a couple of places
there are a couple of things I have not implemented yet and that don't
have a generic fallback (xdg-file-dialog, xdg-copy) are these actually
used anywhere? Having mostly used enlightenment + openSUSE for the last
few years which doesn't have a implementation i've never hit an issue
from not having them but maybe other distro's use them more? Once that
issue is sorted (or decided that it can wait) i'll have the patch ready
to push.

Cheers